The 2nd Time Around

As the old saying goes, you get wiser with age.  And well, you get wiser with the second kid.  I’ve learned a lot since Mary Rene’s pregnancy by watching my friends raise their babies and well, by watching myself stumble and fall here and there.  I think Frank and I have done a fantastic job of raising Mary Rene and I wouldn’t take anything back.  She is who she is because of how we raised her and I love every little ounce of her.  But with Sweet Pea, there are some things I want to do differently and below is a list I have started compiling.  I’m sure once I publish this I will think of more, but I have been working on this post for a few weeks now and want it out of my “draft” folder!  So if I think of more, I’ll just write another post.  On the same token, there are a lot of things I will do the same. 

Feel free to add your thoughts and what you would do different the next time around.  I would love to see what everyone else has to say! 

Labor

  • Wait to go to the hospital until I am in more pain or until the contractions are five minutes apart

I think I jumped the gun on this on.  We were excited, nervous, not really knowing what to expect.  Honestly, I felt pretty good and wanted to stay home longer.  But Frank and his mom both thought we should go to the hospital, so we did.  We got there at 7 p.m. and waited, and waited, and waited.  It wasn’t until early the next morning that I had the opportunity to push.  I think I could have easily stayed at home for another few hours.  That would have given Frank and myself some alone time, to work through the contractions together and really experience the birthing process.  The hospital setting just got in the way.

  • Don’t get an IV

Or at least try not to get it right away.  I didn’t know that you had the option not to get it.  An IV makes you retain water which isn’t really a good thing.  Drinking water is much easier and then you can still move around freely.  Plus it took them four attempts to get the IV inserted and that was just painful.

  • Walk the hospital and don’t get strapped to the bed

This goes along with waiting to go to the hospital.  We got there at 7 p.m. and by 7:35-7:45 p.m. I was laying in the bed with an IV and the baby monitor strapped to my belly.  Laying down is not cool and makes your contractions worse.  I took the child birth classes for a reason!

  • Don’t let them break my water to speed up labor

That was just plain ridiculous.  If I can hold off and wait to go to the hospital, and hold off on the IV, and hold off getting strapped to the bed, then maybe I can hold off here too.  Getting my water broken made my contractions 10 times worse and well…the nurses gave me the nickname “Puddles.”

  • Try for drug free

If I wait to go to the hospital, don’t get the IV right away, don’t get strapped to the bed right away, don’t get my water broken, then I can work through more contractions which would make it slightly easier to have a drug free delivery.  I was doing fine without the epidural until they broke my water.  That was just some quick, no nonsense pain that I didn’t think I could handle.  And the anesthesiologist was just waiting outside the room with his needle.  Plus, Mary Rene was so sleepy from the epidural that nursing in the beginning was tough.  On top of that, we had to pay the anesthesiologist for his services and for the drug.  I think that ended up costing us $400-500 towards our deductible.

  • Have Frank take pictures from the side where you can see Sweet Pea’s face!

I am very happy that Frank got some pictures at all but all of the “first” pictures don’t show Mary Rene’s face.  You can only see the back of her head, my face and the nurse. 

  • Have Frank get a picture of Sweet Pea’s first meal!

I didn’t get a picture of Mary Rene nursing until she was about six months old!  And honestly, that is the only picture I still have to this day.  Nursing has been such a huge part of our lives together and I want to remember these precious moments.  Including that first meal.  Some of my friends got pictures of that first meal and they are so precious.  I don’t think there is anything more amazing then a newborn baby, just minutes old, suckling on his/her momma’s breast.  That is why God gave women breast in the first place.

The Hospital Stay

  • Hold my baby more

I feel like the only time I held Mary Rene was when I nursed her.  There was either someone visiting or we had her in the bassinet.  I want to cuddle more while I can because when I get home, I’ll have two kids to take care of and I know my cuddle time will be limited.

  • Get out of bed more

I only got out of bed to go to the bathroom and change clothes.  I was in the mindset that I was on a mini-vacation.  Basically I paid the price when I got home because recovery was rough.  (Recovery was actually worse then labor and delivery.)  When I finished running a marathon, I never sat down at the finish line.  I would walk around, stretch out a bit and make sure to walk a lot the next day.  Same should go for labor and delivery.

  • Walk down to the nursery

Heck I didn’t even leave my room with Mary Rene.  When we went to sleep at night we would send Mary Rene to the nursery so we could get some rest.  Frank walked down there every night to check on her and he would come back and talk about her in the swing and he wanted me to come see.  I was being lazy. 

  • Sleep more

Well this is obvious.  When I get home I won’t be able to send Sweet Pea to the nursery for the night.  Plus I’ll have two kids to take care of so I need to sleep while in the hospital.

  • Limit visitors

I’m going to sound like a complete scrooge here but I really need to be firm on this.  I was so happy to share Mary Rene with the world that both of our entire families and all of our friends came to visit at the hospital.  It was an exciting time and we loved the company.  But I didn’t realize how exhausting that would be.  Throughout the day, there are different hospital staff members (your doctor, your nurse, baby’s nurse, baby’s doctor, dietitian, lactation consultant, house keeping, insurance person, lunch lady, Eucharist Minister, baby photographer, etc.) in your room nearly every hour between 7 a.m. and 8 p.m.  I seriously am not kidding here.  There is little alone time or rest time with all the medical stuff you need to do.  Add that on top of a constant stream of visitors and you are overwhelmed.  Plus as a new mother I was afraid to nurse in front of anyone so every time we had a visitor I wouldn’t try.  Which meant I had to learn to nurse when I was at home, alone, and that was so stressful.  Sure this time I am more confident and really don’t care if I nurse in front of my family and friends.  But the extra rest and alone time would be nice.  Plus once you get home, you really need the help.  So a visit from a family member or friend means so much more when you are in the comfort of your own home.  And not wearing a hospital gown! 

  • Understand all the paperwork I am signing

Point blank.  I don’t even know what I signed most of the time but I just signed it to get it over with because I wanted to keep the line of people moving that were in my room (see above comment.)  But this time I am going to be more cautious about what I sign and be 100% confident in my signature and approval.

  • Try to get an earlier release

Is it really necessary to stay two nights?  I don’t think it is if you and the baby are doing really good.  I had some blood clot issues the first day with Mary Rene but they were gone by the second day.  If I would have asked, maybe we could have been released and I could have spent the second night in my own bed.  Plus, I can’t bear to think of being away from Mary Rene that many nights in a row.

  • Since I am paying for it, take two of the booger snot sucker outer things

You can’t buy one that even comes close to pulling out snot like the hospital brand!  No joke!

Nursing

  • Be comfortable nursing in public, anywhere and everywhere

There were so many times that I would hide in a bathroom, a dressing room or even go in a separate room when at family functions.  I need to represent nursing mothers and not be ashamed.  The only way to properly educate others on the importance of breastfeeding is to do it. 

  • Don’t use a nursing cover

It draws way too much attention.  You pretty much have a huge billboard over you that says: NURSING BABY HERE!!!!!  I found that just wrapping a blanket around Mary Rene worked much better than the cover.  But honestly, I think I learned to be more discreet nursing in public when I just did it without any type of cover.  There were many times that I would be nursing Mary Rene and my brother would come in the room and start talking to me.  If he knew what I was doing he wouldn’t have been in the room with me.  I was so discreet about it that he thought she was sleeping. 

  • Learn to nurse laying down sooner

I think Mary Rene was about six weeks old before I even attempted to try this.  That meant the first six weeks I would sit all the way up in bed, every two hours to nurse for 20-30 minutes to nurse.  Basically, I was wide awake and had a hard time getting back to bed.

  • Don’t watch the clock so much in the beginning

Just nurse until Sweet Pea is done.  No need to switch every 15 minutes like they tell you to do in the hospital.  When I stopped watching the clock with Mary Rene, she started getting the hind milk which is the best part.  Baby girl put on some weight quick!

  • Master nursing on one side and holding an empty bottle on the other side to catch let down

I’m a leaker, a serious leaker and I don’t think that will change with the second baby.  Double letdown baby.  I had to wear nursing pads until Mary Rene was 11 months!  No kidding.  Instead of pumping milk to get ready for my return to work I want to try and catch the milk from the other breast into a bottle.  I had a couple friends that were able to do this and it cut down on their pump time.  In addition, there is no good reason to have a wet, soaky pad of milk when it is good milk that can be used at a later date.

  • Avoid red sauce!

I heard all the warnings about green vegetables and spicy food before pregnancy and stayed away from those foods.  But nobody warned me about red sauce and that was a huge, huge disturbance to Mary Rene’s belly.  We were so lucky to receive so many cooked meals from friends the first two or three weeks.  The only problem was that most of them contained red sauce and Mary Rene was crabby and didn’t sleep much those first few weeks.  Now I realize it was the red sauce.  I will definitely limit my red sauce intake until Sweet Pea is a few months older so I can keep that belly comfortable.  And well, that way momma can sleep more.

Baby Wearing

  • Do it more

I wore my Moby Wrap a lot but not as much as I could have worn it.  I am currently sewing a ring sling so I will have two different slings to wear.  I think if I keep Sweet Pea in the sling for a good portion of the day, nursing and napping, then I’ll have more time to be hands on with Mary Rene. 

  • Learn to nurse in my sling

I can already picture myself sitting on the couch for 30 minutes, every two to three hours, while Mary Rene roams around the house.  It would be nice to be able to go in the backyard and walk around while Sweet Pea nursed.  Or go grocery shopping and let Sweet Pea nurse while I do some shopping.  Time saver and oh so convenient.

Sleeping

  • Always, always, put Sweet Pea back in the co-sleeper when I am done nursing

Always, always do this.  It was a bad habit I started with Mary Rene.  Main reason she is still in our bed.  I love co-sleeping but wish I would have kept her in the co-sleeper which would have defined her special place to sleep.

  • At three or four months, start sleep training

Put the baby to bed when he/she is awake.  We didn’t do this with Mary Rene and well, we didn’t get to this point until she was 15 months.  Don’t get me wrong, I love the way we have raised Mary Rene, but the many, many nights of rocking a 23 pound baby were exhausting.  Plus, it is hard for other people to get her to sleep.  We need more options with Sweet Pea.  I hate the thought of sleep training but I know I need to work on it sooner with Sweet Pea.  Mary Rene was only able to fall asleep being nursed or rocked for the first 15 months.  Convincing her to sleep on her own was hard, not only for her but for us.  It would be nice to have Sweet Pea learn how to go to sleep on his/her own at an earlier age.

  • Try to get Sweet Pea to nap on his/her own when he/she is three to five months old.

I still have to nurse Mary Rene to nap everyday.  It addition, Mary Rene doesn’t nap for Frank or my parents.  Frank’s mom has to rock her to nap still.  It would be nice for Sweet Pea to nap for everyone, regardless of the situation and where he/she is at that given time.

  • All naps in crib

I got in the bad habit of letting Mary Rene nap on the couch.  Now, she naps in our bed.  Which actually is great because she takes longer naps in our bed because she is so comfortable there (pillow top mattress!)  But I want to make sure Sweet Pea naps in his/her crib so when he/she is placed in the crib so a connection is made that it is nap time.

  • Around three to four months, take turns with Frank on who helps put Sweet Pea to sleep

For the first year, it was primarily my job to put Mary Rene to bed because she would only nurse to sleep.  When she wouldn’t fall asleep nursing then I would rock.  If I got tired and tried handing her off to Frank she would scream bloody murder.  Which just made it easier for me to do the job.  Sweet Pea needs to learn to fall asleep for anyone, not just mommy that way I can catch a break.

  • Have a place for Sweet Pea to nap at my parent’s house

Mary Rene really didn’t have a place to nap and to this day, I still can’t get her to nap there.  If Sweet Pea has a place to sleep from the beginning then it will be easier to start the napping process.

 Vaccinations

  • Don’t get Sweet Pea the Hepatitis B shot at birth

Which goes back to “Understand all the paperwork I am signing.”  I see no reason at all for my child to get a vaccine the day he/she is born.  Especially since I don’t have Hepatitis B.

  • Be firm in my decision and don’t let anyone talk me out of the choices I am making for my child

Be firm, really firm.  I’ve spent way too much time researching vaccines to let someone push me around.  There are reasons that I am going to do what I want to do and I need to stay firm with whomever stands against me.

  • Delay vaccinations

I wish I would have done this with Mary Rene but I didn’t know what I know now.  I just can’t understand why all those vaccines are needed in such a short amount of time.  I believe vaccines are important but they need to be spaced out.  Plus, Sweet Pea will not, under any circumstance, be getting any vaccine with tissues from an aborted baby.

Leaving the House

  • Get outside more in the beginning

Even if it is just in the backyard or a walk around the block.  Fresh air is good for Mary Rene, Sweet Pea and me.  All parties win.  That is why I have a sling.

  • Go to my parent’s house more often 

I didn’t do this in the beginning with Mary Rene and she had extreme separation anxiety.  For the longest time, she didn’t want to be alone over there.  It was hard for me to watch and hard for my parents to deal with too.

  • Let my parents watch Sweet Pea more than I let them watch Mary Rene

Again, she had separation anxiety with them and I felt horrible for her and my parents when they were alone together.  I want Sweet Pea to feel more comfortable around my parents so they can be alone with him/her more often.

What I want to do the same

No pacifiers

Waiting to start solids until at least seven months

Breastfeed

Cloth diapers

Co-Sleep

Wow.  That was a mouth full.  Did you fall along?  Now tell me what you would do different the second, or third or fourth, time around.

14 Responses to “The 2nd Time Around”

  1. Katie Says:

    The one thing I plan on doing differently is putting our next baby in his/her crib much sooner for nightime sleeping. Natalie slept in a bassinet for the first few months, and I think I should have listened to Matt’s sister…put the baby in the crib right away. I do feel like this might help develop better sleeping habits! I totally agree with you on limiting the number of visitors while in the hospital. It was so nice having friends and family there, but also overwhelming! Having visitors while at home would be much better.

  2. Jackie Says:

    For awhile now I have said that my number one lesson learned from Mason is to just relax and hold him if need needed to be held. I was so worried about his napping (he didn’t nap for more than 20 - 30 minutes at a time until he was 9 month old) that I would get him to sleep and immediately lay him down trying to “train” him to sleep on his own. The next time I plan to just put the baby in a sling and go about my day. I’ll still try to get the baby to lay down on his/her own every few days but I have realized I made both of our lives harder with the all or nothing approach I took before. It’s funny because this is kind of opposite to what your changes are in regards to sleeping. I think you just have to find the middle ground and read that individual child to determine their needs.

  3. The Third Prayer Says:

    Good point Jackie! I was so worried about naps too and once Mary Rene fell asleep I would try to put her down but then she would wake up. So I got in the habit of letting her sleep in my arms for 30 minutes to an hour. But I would get frustrated because her nap time was my “work” time and I felt like I never got anything done. I agree, I need to relax more with the naps but the second time around, this is where the sling would come in handy. Thanks for the reminder!

  4. MELINDA Says:

    You really need for Frank to give sweet pea a bottle. I could not give Mary a bottle and when you are away sweet pea going to have to get a bottle. I know breast feeding is important to you but its hard on other people when your not there. I can’t wait until Mary can stay all night with us. This time you will not be in the hospital as long so you will not have as many visitors

  5. Katie Says:

    Labor- I wouldn’t do anything different next time unless I’m told my water didn’t break (when it really did) I waited until my contractions were 2 minutes apart before going to the hospital. My Mom told me the second child comes quick so get to the hospital sooner.
    Hospital stay-I am enjoying this stay! Give me 4 days! I am already looking forward to the food. (St John’s has wonderful food) I am def. cutting down on visitors. I always had a room full!
    Nursing-Try to nurse more in public (covered of course), pump some bottles and have Eddie give baby one bottle a day! I was overwhelmed with my little piggy. I may even supplement one bottle of formula a day.
    Baby wearing-do it more and early so the baby is used to it.
    Sleeping-NO CO-SLEEPING EVER AGAIN, put baby in bed or crib, don’t let baby nap on couch, all naps are in bed, do sleep training (let my baby cry a little), make husband get up.
    Vaccines-Start delaying earlier.
    Leaving house- Get out of the house more often. I did not leave the house for three months with Elaine. I never left Elaine, EVER! I still don’t leave her but I plan too next time.
    Others: Going completley organic, stop pacifier sooner.
    What I would continue:Breastfeeding, Pacifer (the pacifer saved me! Otherwise she pacified on me), making my own babyfood, giving water instead of juice.
    I am sure there is much more.

  6. The Third Prayer Says:

    Thanks mom! I completely forgot, or maybe purposely blocked out, the whole bottle issue with Mary Rene. We had the hardest time getting her to take a bottle and my first week back to work was H-E-L-L. So yes, I need to make sure Sweet Pea takes a bottle sooner and from different people. Mary Rene would only take one from Frank’s mom which didn’t allow other people to watch her in the beginning.

  7. The Third Prayer Says:

    And I do want to make my own baby food again, but more this time!

  8. Jenny C. Says:

    I would not worry so much about when the baby feeds. If she’s crying, the pop her on! I worried way too much about how much time between feeds, how many a day, etc. I think my supply really suffered because of it.

    I would use a sling more too - a good one. There is so much that can be done with baby in a sling.

    You can do a natural birth! If I can do it, you can. It was the worst pain imaginable, but it’s not permanent, and it’s not going to kill you. Totally worth it! Just think of how empowered you’ll feel afterwards.

  9. Francesca Abernathy Says:

    Amen on the red sauce issue! Finn had major sensitivities to spicy or rich foods, but it was the biggest relief when I figured out that the main cause of his upset tummy and crying episodes were because of tomato-based sauces and soups. Unfortunately I had been pumping milk for several weeks before figuring this out, and so he did have issues with his tummy when he started going to the babysitter and drinking the “tainted” milk. I’d say the issue was resolved by the time he was 6 months old, when his digestive system was more mature.

    When I realized that’s what it was, I told the pediatrician about it, and he had never heard of tomato-based foods causing any trouble. Likewise, I had never seen “tomatoes” on any list of potential-tummy-upsetters in any of my baby or nursing books.

    Now, I know what to look for when Lila has an upset tummy. And it does seem that she has the same sensitivities that Finn had. So, I’ll swear off peppers, mexican food, and tomatoes for the next couple of months! It sucks!

  10. The Third Prayer Says:

    oh Jenny I wish I was as hardcore as you! I thought I was but when the doctor walked in with the needle I was like “JUST DO IT!” I’m hoping the second time around Frank stands behind me 100% and even when I waver he still stands firm. I know I won’t regret it!

  11. Melissa Says:

    Trena, look into Hypnobabies or Hypnobirthing if you would like to try for natural childbirth. Both philosophies show mom how to focus on visuals and breathing to work through the pain. You can even do the home self study rather than pay for the classes.

  12. Rae Says:

    This is such a great list! To be honest, the thing that scares me most about birth is the idea of being expected to be on my back in bed. There is no way that I could do that unless I were completely drugged.

    Anyway, I read the whole thing and am thankful for you for posting it.

  13. Lerin Says:

    I really, really enjoyed your list. I did chuckle a little though for one reason… you’ve never had another child besides Mary Rene. You will be shocked about how different they all are. You may find that Sweet Pea sleeps anywhere and not because of anything you “did” but because of an easy-going personality. Make sense? I’ve had four now and they are all so different. The main thing I have learned about mothering in the last almost-8 years is to TRUST YOUR GUT and RELAX. I love attachment parenting and am very affectionate/hands-on. I don’t do a lot of lists or planning anymore… I am very much go-with-the-flow. And now that Lucycake is 9 months old, I know (if past experience is a predictor of the future) that I will probably be expecting baby five in the next year. Many blessings on your growing family. :)

  14. Joanne Says:

    Wow..what great posts from everyone. And a great entry Trena.The biggest thing I did differently for my second was to go with a mid-wife/home birth plan, instead of a hospital delivery plan. One of the main objectives was to avoid a second c-section. But another big objective was to be in control (or at least MORE in control, since so much in birthing is out of our control) of the decisions being made during the birthing process. That being said, along with that goes the complete responsibility for those decisions…..which led me to doing LOTS of research, and lots of soul-searching, finding out what for ME what was the safest place to birth.
    After laboring/pushing at home, I ended up transferring to the hospital for a second c-section. (not emergency, and with an epidural not a general like the first time). However, since most decisions were made by me, I did not end up regretting my decisions, or feel as out of control as I did in my first birth in the hospital.

    After the birthing location decision was made, dealing with child-led breastfeeding and weaning, and deciding against circumsion were easy decision s to make. I got way past being influenced by others’ viewpoints on these very personal matters. So there was lots less internal conflict about mothering my second. Live and learn! Do your research and trust your instincts. And DO realize that every baby is completely different. (as mentioned above). Take care Trena!

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